Monday, December 14, 2009

Hong Kong Trip pt. 1 - Hackett does Rugby

Our Kinkade Rugby from Fall 09


The Hackett version -release date TBD

I saw it immediately as we walked into the Chinese factory showroom. Our rugby shirt. My rugby shirt (my college colors that is). My first thought was that we don't make our rugby shirts in this factory, but Hackett does. I guess imitation is the highest form of flattery.

17 comments:

kip said...

what a shirt

F.E. Castleberry said...

Hackett is coming to the US I believe in 2010...watch out :)

Laguna Beach Trad said...

Great post. Though I would argue, it's Rugby does Hackett. :)

Enzo AGC said...

LBT - That's an argument I would love to hear argued convincingly...

Anonymous said...

I agree with Laguna, Rugby often copies from other firms. I have a friend who works at Bergdorf's who said that given the economy he's heard Ralph might close down such brands.

Anyway, great blog, keep up the good work.

Enzo AGC said...

Anon - Everybody in the industry borrows from other companies, but blatant plagiaries like this one are not something that we often engage in. As for Rugby going out of business, your friend at BG is ill-informed. The head of Rugby design was promoted to SVP last week and there are currently plans for large domestic and overseas (think Japan) expansion. I would be very interested to see example of the things that we "copy" by the way...

Anonymous said...

Whoa, I didn't know you worked for Rugby. Sorry, my bad. I guess my friend is wrong, but you've got to agree that the clothing market has suffered greatly this past year.

Anyway, great blog.

Enzo AGC said...

Anon - Don't sweat it at all. Thank you for your comment and your readership. If you disagree with something I say here, say so. Its all about a positive discourse. The only comments I moderate are the unthoughtful kind. The market has certainly suffered but, to be honest, I think it may be a positive thing. There are too many brands doing the same thing and I think a situation like this forces the cream to rise to the top.

wecouldgrowup2gether said...

how was hong kong? was it your first time there?!

Anonymous said...

Whilst I am a fan of what Rugby do, I would agree with LBT that it's more a case of Rugby doing Hackett, though really it's neither.

The rugby shirt has been a staple of Hackett since his earliest ranges and that colourway is a fairly classic and good looking one for an A/W range. The logos and patches on the shirts both play into a trend of a British sporty look that you see at lots of the more "preppy" companies here in England and that I imagine is also appreciated in some US circles.

I'd say it really comes down to two successful companies knowing their markets and knowing what works within the styles they cater for.

Unless they are exactly the same, the who-copied-who arguments are futile on classic pieces like rugby shirts because really, how far could you end up tracing the history of the garment to find out who has been copying who since it's creation?

That aside, big fan of your blog!

Adam.

Enzo AGC said...

Hey Adam,

Thanks for stopping by and adding to the "debate" although I must tell you that the owner of the factory where this photo was taken told me that the Hackett guys bought our rugby, brought it to them and said "Do this." As for the logos (there are ones on the back that you can't see from this image), all but one are a compilation of logos and techniques that we have run in the last year. This is a direct plagiarism.

tintin said...

What was that piece Flusser penned about the Italians stealing from the British and selling it back to them?

Enzo AGC said...

Tintin - touche good sir. I wonder if Flusser knows that King Arthur was Roman...

tintin said...

I don't think anyone has had an original thought in the last 2,000 years.

David said...

A good rugby is the easiest way to wear a contrast collar without feeling like Michael Douglas in the 80's.

That being said, the rugby is freaking awesome. Those colors are perfect. Glad to hear the trip was a success.

brohammas said...

I find this "who copied who" conversation particularly curious in that it deals with rugby.
Are we still talking about Ralph's Rugby? The company that attempted to sue USA Rugby, as in the organization that controls the actual sport, over the use of the word "rugby"?

Your shirt, his shirt, lets just give Webb Ellis the credit and go have a pint.

Mr Brown said...

Hackett have built a good business on 'taking inspiration' from others but not moving it forward in the slightest.

See Cording's particularly.

To this end they have very little to offer.

With regard to this shirt, the prospect of a British company putting out a rugby jersey with such a collection of inappropriate badges is laughable in the extreme.

Double shame on all the Hacketts involved.